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first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a guerrilla force. why? because they fade away when confronted. you have their mixed population as well. when you aim a warhead loaded with chemical weapons at a population, who are you really targeting? it could kill even your own supporters. we have these two main reasons. >> why do you suppose we have other countries -- germany says it's going to send in soldiers to neighboring turkey. why do you suppose there is such anxiety and such fear around that country and the possibility that that could happen? >> well, within the context of what turkey asked nato for, the patr
first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a...
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officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara, thank you. i want to bring in jill dougherty from ireland where the secretary of state hillary clinton held a news conference. keep in mind, russia here, really, resisted the efforts to speed the departure of the syrian leader al assad. so jill, do we know, was syria's chemical weapons, was that discussed here in this conversation between the secretary of state and the foreign minister of russia? >> reporter: well, yes. initially. there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area wher
officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara,...
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reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remember that. also important to remember that the syrian regime has said yet again today that they have no intention of doing anything with chemical weapons of utilizing them against the syrian people and they also said today that any type of foreign military intervention in syria would be catastrophic for the region. >> let me ask you. you are in lebanon and that's
reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact...
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but...
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>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they use the right kind of chemical weapon. so i can understand the administration's concern but maybe they don't realize that they are also sending a green light to bashir al assad that he can do anything short of that. >> what would it mean to try to stop chemical weapons from being used? >> i think it would have to be -- it would be very complicated. i don't think you could send enough american troops on the ground. i don't think that would be an option. you may have to try to take out the stocks from the air. we do know where a lot of them are. frankly, i don't -- i've had significant military backgr
>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they...
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the russians and as two states prepare to -- sir richard bransens tells us why the war on drugs has been an utter failure. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pla
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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now, the assessment is that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete asylum offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. >>> "out front" next, 57% of americans say they would vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about recent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. c-max, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't work on runny noses. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have an antihistamine. really? [ male announcer ] really. alka-seltzer plus cold and cough
now, the assessment is that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete asylum offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. >>> "out front" next, 57% of americans say they would vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about recent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john...
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>> bashar al assad fired four scud range missiles at rebel fighters today according to u.s. officials. there's no word on what kind of damage they inflicted. but the escalation of fighting comes as the u.s. and allies closely monitor syria's chemical weapons. erin burnett sat down with leon panetta in afghanistan and she asked about those weapons. >> i think there's a danger here based on there were, in fact, beginning to assemble these weapons and that -- and put them together. and when you do that, you know, that's a dangerous sign that the next step is to use them. and so that's why we issue the warning that we did, made clear that there would be consequences. at least at this point the intelligence on this issue has kind of leveled off. but my concern is this. that as the opposition continues to move against the regime, particularly as they move towards damascus, that if the regime feels that it's in danger of collapsing, that it might very well resort to these kinds of weapons. that's what concerns me the most. >> you know, everyone has said that syria is a chemical sup
>> bashar al assad fired four scud range missiles at rebel fighters today according to u.s. officials. there's no word on what kind of damage they inflicted. but the escalation of fighting comes as the u.s. and allies closely monitor syria's chemical weapons. erin burnett sat down with leon panetta in afghanistan and she asked about those weapons. >> i think there's a danger here based on there were, in fact, beginning to assemble these weapons and that -- and put them together. and...
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will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military? will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist elements. we've seen a growing presence of al qaeda and other extremist groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which we understand there are in the neighborhood of four dozen. >> yeah, and, noah, how much do you think there is confidence that we know what really is going on, and how widespread this stuff is? because you're right. in the chaos of a cataclysm over there if it comes down the final battle, it seems to me we could have a very similar circumstance to what we had in iraq and afghanistan where we just don't know where things went. >> yeah, i think there's a fair degree of confidence right now about where this precursor mixing activity happens. but if things get really chaotic, i think all bets a
will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military? will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist elements. we've seen a growing presence of al qaeda and other extremist groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which...
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the track u.s. submarines. now, this document basically not only outlined the procedures you would use to do that, but the actual technology that you would need to track u.s. submarines. it's very serious because us navy officials will often tell us where surface ships and carriers are located around the world at any particular moment. they almost never discuss where the subs are. that is classified information. now, the zimt says tha
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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plus, syrian president al assad aaccuses the u.s. of manufacturing stories as a pretext for an invasion. defense secretary leon panetta responding today. after john mack cahfee is in cu, he was rushed to the hospital. and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. [ female announcer ] live the regular life. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. a
plus, syrian president al assad aaccuses the u.s. of manufacturing stories as a pretext for an invasion. defense secretary leon panetta responding today. after john mack cahfee is in cu, he was rushed to the hospital. and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. anyone have...
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. so, the 5.3-liter v-8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer power? [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. this holiday season, trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $2,000 cash allowance or get a total value of $9,000. five days later, i had a m
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. it's easy to get started; i can help you with the paperwork. um...this green line just appeared on my floor. yeah, that's fidelity helping you reach your financial goals. could you hold on a second? it's your money. roll over your old 401(k) into a fidelity ira and take control of your personal economy. this is going to be helpful. call or come in today. fidelity investments. turn here. yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symp
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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assad could go into asylum tomorrow. the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this problem of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff. and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. we'll continue to follow it, as well. >>> up next, while lawmakers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed to find time to vote on a treaty that would have protected disabled around the world. it's modeled on the americans with disabilities act. republicans blocked it with their vote. you might ask, why would they do that? we'll tell you, ahead. i love to eat. i love hanging out with my friends. i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super
assad could go into asylum tomorrow. the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this problem of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff. and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. we'll continue to follow it, as well. >>> up next, while lawmakers have been battling...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really scary stuff
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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al assad is not the representative of the syrian people. the u.s. and other than western countries have called on bashar al assad to step down. concretely it is a diplomatic move. it was expected. what it doesn't change and this is what the rebels and the opposition want is whether or not they get more money and more arms. they're saying in their meeting with the friends of morocco group, friends of syria group in morocco right now. they say recognition is fine, but we want weapons and more money. right now they're not getting it from the west. >> the u.s. is not give them either one of those things. do they completely sever ties with assad? how does that relationship change, if at all? >> that relationship has been essentially marabund for the last several months. there mab no ambassador there are and they're sanctions impose on the regime and there's no polical relationship with the regime of al assad with the united states. it doesn't change anything on that level. that means we're inching closer and closer to this government in exile, if you wil
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to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >> reporter: they're incredibly secretive. it's very difficult to actually get access to their leadership. we have been trying that. when you speak with the other fighting units, they have enormous respect for the al nusri front's capabilities because their fighters are deemed to be the most professional, the most dedicated. they're often on the deadliest and most dangerous front lines. even amongst ordinary activists who most certainly do not support al nusri's ideology, that same level of respect is echoed with people believing that, were it not for the presence of the al nusri front, the
to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >>...
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assad could go into asylum tomorrow, the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this part of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff, and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. >>> up next, while law makers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed to find time to vote on a treaty that would have protected disabled around the world. republicans blocked it with their vote. you might ask, why would they do that? you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting
assad could go into asylum tomorrow, the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this part of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff, and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. >>> up next, while law makers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but keep in mind this -- because it's odorless and tasteless and very hard to detect, you have to get out of area and also because you can get poisoned again by ingestion and inhaling or simply touching it, it can be on the clothes, the clothes could be a vehicle so you get out of the way. you take off your clothes or anything that may have been exposed to it, soap and water, rinse your body as much as also. one thing is it's a heavier gas compared to that what's in that area and lingers closer to the ground and getting to higher elevation can help. it sounds simplistic but short of a medic
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but...
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if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think. >>> let's move quickly to egypt. a lot of difficult scenarios there developing, with president morsi, apparently, showing a few traits of mubarak, with the executive orders he's giving himself. did he need to do this? and what is the fallout going to be here? the big protests all through cairo are the eruptions in egypt. >> he blew it. first of all, the grab for power from the judges. he compounded that today, by allowing his people, the muslim brotherhood to go out and crack heads. several people appear to have been killed. he's made things worse for himself. but that said, this is the first
if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the nato forces and nato troops come in? it has to happen. >> i don't think they're going to go in on the ground. i think we're going to see patriot missiles in turkey. we may see other help, intelligence assistance for the rebels. we're not going to see nato troops on the ground. >> it's going to be an interesting few weeks, i think....
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there's talk that russia has them and assad might use them. do you believe any of that? do we really know when you think back to iraq, do we really know what chemical weapons syria has and whether assad would use them or if they could come into the hands of the al qaeda-linked groups or rebels that could use them? >> my guess is they do have some. historically, this has always been the view. who knows how many and how effective they are? the most important thing to remember about chemical weapons is they're not actually that effective. so part of what -- the reason regimes like assad and saddam hussein stockpile them is it scared people. it made them think, you know, we can poison whole villages. the truth is the gas disperses very fast. it's not very effective. so i would guess -- my gut is the syrian regime will not use it. i think that president obama's very stern warning to them probably helped in that regard. so i think that while we should be cautious, it's not clear they're going to use them. >> senator john mccain is trying to get on the senate foreign relations
there's talk that russia has them and assad might use them. do you believe any of that? do we really know when you think back to iraq, do we really know what chemical weapons syria has and whether assad would use them or if they could come into the hands of the al qaeda-linked groups or rebels that could use them? >> my guess is they do have some. historically, this has always been the view. who knows how many and how effective they are? the most important thing to remember about chemical...
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only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of what the syrians are doing. it's a last ditch effort. i don't think anyone in syria believes it. there's zero chance that the united states is doipg anything like this. it's always clear it's a reaction to president obama's very tough warning to the syrians. that they shouldn't even think about using chemical weapons. >> i'm curious only because there is this report now that united states is employed military contractors on the ground. i think in turkey and jordan, but also inside syria, to help opposition members. should they get their hands on some of these chemical weapons to a, secur
only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of...
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we're really counting on the russians here. >> you know assad. is he the type of person that in the right situation would use chemical weapons on his own people if the option was losing and being ousted? >> it's really impossible to tell. the syrian government spokespeople have been saying over the last couple of days under no circumstances would they use them except for foreign military intervention but assad is desperate. his back is against the wall. he is going to lose in this civil war. rebels have made extraordinary advances over the last couple of days. he has got to be thinking about either exile, war perhaps, creating an enclave within syria where his clan can defend themselves perhaps along the mediterranean coast. >> before we run out of time, i want to talk about egypt and mohamed morsi and what's happening in cairo. things seem pretty calm at this moment. last night the clashes were very violent over this proposed constitution. where do you think this ends? >> it's a power struggle. and morsi's called a december 14th referendum on th
we're really counting on the russians here. >> you know assad. is he the type of person that in the right situation would use chemical weapons on his own people if the option was losing and being ousted? >> it's really impossible to tell. the syrian government spokespeople have been saying over the last couple of days under no circumstances would they use them except for foreign military intervention but assad is desperate. his back is against the wall. he is going to lose in this...
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how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key personnel that are involved, the scientists, research and development community, the military leaders, the commanders, that as fran indicated would give the directives to pull the triggers. those guys have to be rounded up. and you have to conduct interrogations. that's very tough. that's kind of basic intelligence work. and it doesn't start until you get on the ground and you start interrogating those guys. >> there's always concern. i remember there was a guy named curve ball providing the u.s. information supposedly about saddam hussein's wmd. >> it was one source. >> but he
how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key...
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would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the government knows more than we do but outside, it's not quite clear exactly what they were trying to get at here. obviously, stop the use of chemical weapons, but who was going to use them? what their intent was, we still don't know that outside. >> right. and certainly i would imagine how secure they are considering that rebels have links to al qaeda or extremist groups. there's lots of risks. and sources are saying that his mood may be at this point, look, i'm going to end up being killed anyway. if i try to leave, i'm going to be killed by my own people and they s
would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the...
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as you know, russia has blocked action against al assad at the u.n., but some have speculate that had moscow may be considering a different aprove. i mean, is russia stopping the u.s., do you think, from going into syria? >> i think the russians are beginning to realize that this problem simply cannot be ignored, and their passive stance on it simply doesn't provide for any constructive solution, so i hope that they will work with us on this, and i think the more international consensus we have on what is to be done, the less likely is the danger that the removal of the regime will result in the fragmentation of syria all together and regional conflicts erupting. that is the real danger, and that's what people should be concentrating on. >> you know, some have made the comparison that getting involved with syria or in syria is similar to us getting involved in libya and taking action against libya. do you see it that way? >> not quite. i supported strongly the position that the united states took on libya because there was an identifiable enemy, and there was also a real sign of an or
as you know, russia has blocked action against al assad at the u.n., but some have speculate that had moscow may be considering a different aprove. i mean, is russia stopping the u.s., do you think, from going into syria? >> i think the russians are beginning to realize that this problem simply cannot be ignored, and their passive stance on it simply doesn't provide for any constructive solution, so i hope that they will work with us on this, and i think the more international consensus...
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. >>> president obama sends a clear message to syrian president bashar al assad, saying the u.s. now recognizes the rebel coalition fighting against assad's crumbling regime, the president made that declaration in an interview with abc's barbara walters. >> the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> keep in mind here, what he just said, that doesn't mean that the u.s. will be arming the rebel forces. the declaration is just intended to be a showing of support. but all of this comes one day after a group of rebel fighters called the al nursa front are labeled a terrorist organizat n organization. some say this latest flurry of diplomacy was triggered by the threat that assad would use chemical weapons against his own people. cnn's arwa damon is in aleppo and has been trying to get close to this plant, believed to be one of syria's largest chemical weapons factories. watch this. >> reporter: in
. >>> president obama sends a clear message to syrian president bashar al assad, saying the u.s. now recognizes the rebel coalition fighting against assad's crumbling regime, the president made that declaration in an interview with abc's barbara walters. >> the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad...
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so what happens if assad somehow falls? who do you then talk to? who do you then have relations with on the ground? i know they've come up with a coalition, this opposition coalition. but that too has yet to fully prove itself as an effective and consolidated opposition to bashar assad. and not just that, a coalition that can encourage his core group of supporters to defect and come to the other side. >> terrific insight. thank you so much for your time this morning. >> thanks, randi. >>> well, she lived in three different centuries and used to drive a model t. the world's oldest person died this week. we'll take a look at the fantastic life of bess cooper. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. >>> what a day that was. in oklahoma, two deaf 8-year-old girls experienced a life changing moment when they heard for the first time. watch t
so what happens if assad somehow falls? who do you then talk to? who do you then have relations with on the ground? i know they've come up with a coalition, this opposition coalition. but that too has yet to fully prove itself as an effective and consolidated opposition to bashar assad. and not just that, a coalition that can encourage his core group of supporters to defect and come to the other side. >> terrific insight. thank you so much for your time this morning. >> thanks,...
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the foreign minster here to the right of president assad, he told state-run media that assad's government is losing control of more of syria. here's a quote "we need to look the facts in the eye and unfortunately we cannot exclude a victory by the opposition." russia was 1 of the votes that kept him from acting against assad. we heard this from native secretary general. >> i think the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now is only a question of time. >> how significant is this here? hello to you. we can talk about possible low assad leaving syria. now do you think that might be more serious? >> no. the question is how significant is the deputy foreign minster and my answer is very significant. this is a high level kremlin official saying russia is syria's most important friend. they are fulfilling military contract and blocking resolutions. it is publicly saying you read part of the quote thatty we must face the facts. then the deputy foreign minster added an opposition victory cannot be excluded. let's put it into context. they are not saying assad should step down and s
the foreign minster here to the right of president assad, he told state-run media that assad's government is losing control of more of syria. here's a quote "we need to look the facts in the eye and unfortunately we cannot exclude a victory by the opposition." russia was 1 of the votes that kept him from acting against assad. we heard this from native secretary general. >> i think the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now is only a question of time. >>...
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troops loyal to bashar al assad reach into their arsenal for more deadly weapons. even scud missile. officials say assad has between 3 and 400 of those short and medium-range missiles in his stockpile. the regime forces launched a scud from the suburbs of damascus. >> if this proves to be true, it's another indication of the deparagraph tea of assad and his crohn knees. >> once more, the forces last week started using what's called barrel bombs. >> it contains flammable materials. it's sort of a napalm and it's very, very concerning and indicative of the regime's brutality. >> human rights groups say it causes extremely painful burns, often down to the bone, burns that are often hard to treat. this comes after signs that an increasingly desperate assad is moving closer to using chemical weapons. chemical weapons plus scud missiles would be a lethal combination. >> if you were to marry up a chem kabl warhead on to the scud, you now have an area denial weapon system which is very nasty. it affects everybody. it doesn't discriminate from friend or foe. >> one means of
troops loyal to bashar al assad reach into their arsenal for more deadly weapons. even scud missile. officials say assad has between 3 and 400 of those short and medium-range missiles in his stockpile. the regime forces launched a scud from the suburbs of damascus. >> if this proves to be true, it's another indication of the deparagraph tea of assad and his crohn knees. >> once more, the forces last week started using what's called barrel bombs. >> it contains flammable...
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will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people.
will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them...
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there are new concerns the assad regime is preparing to use chemical weapons. let's get to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, how does this change the u.s. military's syria plan? are we talking u.s. troops, boots on the ground? >> well, not at this point, clearly, deb. but what we do know is that u.s. officials tell us that they are updating some of the military options for action against syria's chemical weapons capability, why are they doing this? of course, we chatted about this in the last several days. officials say they do have the intelligence now that syria has filled aerial bombs with deadly sarin gas. haven't moved it to airplanes yet, but this is very concerning because that, of course, would be the next step. so once you have the deadly bombs, the u.s. has to look at what the options could be, what they might want to target to essentially take out that kind of capabilities. so that's the options that are now being worked on. deb? >> i mean, the implications are just stunning that the assad regime would actually use deadly gas on its
there are new concerns the assad regime is preparing to use chemical weapons. let's get to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, how does this change the u.s. military's syria plan? are we talking u.s. troops, boots on the ground? >> well, not at this point, clearly, deb. but what we do know is that u.s. officials tell us that they are updating some of the military options for action against syria's chemical weapons capability, why are they doing this? of course, we chatted...
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wants to take down assad but at the same time cutting the rebels off at the knee. it doesn't make sense. >> the group should be considered a terrorist organization based on the fact that there are allegedly connections with al qaeda in iraq. the long term after the regime does fall, i do think it will provide an opening since most of the rebels, while respect nusra doesn't believe in their world view, and therefore the more secular and liberal and moderate islamists within the opposition might utilize this as an opportunity as well as the united states, to distance themselves but in the short to medium term, especially prior to the collapse of the regime, i don't see how to this will help out. >> reporter: they are popular with some syrian fighters who see al nusra behind the radical attack on army headquarters as badly maligned heros. extremists bombing blamed for, as one says, the work of regime loyalists trying to tar al nusr ach's reputation. when america wants to put them on the terror list it should differentiate between those who fight for and defend the syr
wants to take down assad but at the same time cutting the rebels off at the knee. it doesn't make sense. >> the group should be considered a terrorist organization based on the fact that there are allegedly connections with al qaeda in iraq. the long term after the regime does fall, i do think it will provide an opening since most of the rebels, while respect nusra doesn't believe in their world view, and therefore the more secular and liberal and moderate islamists within the opposition...
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that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters, they are taking on syrian forces literally house to house in the country's largest city. that is aleppo, and that is where we find our arwa damon today. >> reporter: for two months the streets here have been a war zone. part of a bigger battle for control of aleppo, syria's largest city. this father of four is one of the rebel fighters here. this is our country, our homes that are being destroyed, he tells us. he used to sell thread. now he runs logistics for his unit. so what he is explaining to us is that this was street to street fighting, and it took his unit quite some time to advance and righ
that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters,...
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talks with him about syria, what we're learning tonight about the forces loyal to president bashar al assad, and how scud missiles have been fired. >>> the united states government says it shows just how desperate assad's regime is now getting. >>> and also, our first look at the shooter who police believe is responsible for last night's deadly rampage in a portland-area mall. police have identified him as well as the two people that he killed. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield in for erin burnett tonight who is on assignment in afghanistan. we've got breaking news right off the top. cnn just learning that the united states does not believe that north korea is in full control of that satellite that it sent into space with the long-range rocket launch. this is according to a u.s. official to our barbara starr at the pentagon. up until now, by most accounts, this launch has been seen as a success, or certainly it raised the bar on how we view their capabilities. erin burnett spoke with defense secretary leon panetta, exclusively in kabul about this very is
talks with him about syria, what we're learning tonight about the forces loyal to president bashar al assad, and how scud missiles have been fired. >>> the united states government says it shows just how desperate assad's regime is now getting. >>> and also, our first look at the shooter who police believe is responsible for last night's deadly rampage in a portland-area mall. police have identified him as well as the two people that he killed. let's go "outfront."...
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now their most powerful ally says assad might be losing. they're not alone. head of nato today said this. irng the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now it is only a question of time. but those people, they're the politicians, want to see the real side of syria's civil war, the streets where people are caught up in the crossfire dying there. what you're about to say you can only see here on cnn. this is a teenager risking his life to save a stranger. here's arwa damon. >> reporter: a fighter slithering across the street, his body hugging the cold pavement. yards away a woman lies motionless. she's been shot by a sniper. her rescuer is not a relative nor a neighbor. he's never met her. he's just 17. he knew he had to save the woman or die trying. when we met him later he tells us we had a feeling that she was still alive. we wanted to save her, to get her to a hospital. as he crawls closer, he can see her hand, her fingers shaking. cover him, cover him someone shouts. other fighters lay down cover fire. abdullah quickly ties the hose to her l
now their most powerful ally says assad might be losing. they're not alone. head of nato today said this. irng the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now it is only a question of time. but those people, they're the politicians, want to see the real side of syria's civil war, the streets where people are caught up in the crossfire dying there. what you're about to say you can only see here on cnn. this is a teenager risking his life to save a stranger. here's arwa damon....
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and now today we're seeing the first clear time that russia thinks assad is over. his days are perhaps numbered. and that will have huge ramifications on those inside the syrian regime worried themselves, seeing themselves surrounded by rebels. >> nick payton walsh, thank you. and now we want to show issue dramatic video obtained by cnn out of the conflict in syria. here it is. it shows a young rebel fighter, look at that, just 17 years old, crawling on his belly through a hail of bullet ls to rescue a woman who had been shoot. the video was given cnn. he pulls her out of harm's way. trf i sa >> translator: i said to myself if i die, it's god's will that i die next to this woman. >> despite the young man's brave efforts, the woman later died from her wounds. in an interview, the young fighter said, quote, i'm not a hero, i'm just like anyone else. what a long strange trip it has been for john mcafee. now his latest stop is miami. why there? we'll talk about it. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in t
and now today we're seeing the first clear time that russia thinks assad is over. his days are perhaps numbered. and that will have huge ramifications on those inside the syrian regime worried themselves, seeing themselves surrounded by rebels. >> nick payton walsh, thank you. and now we want to show issue dramatic video obtained by cnn out of the conflict in syria. here it is. it shows a young rebel fighter, look at that, just 17 years old, crawling on his belly through a hail of bullet...
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increasing the fear that bashar al assad's embattled regime may be preparing to use chemical weapons against its opponents. nbc news reports that syria's military loaded the component chemical for the deadly nerve gas cerron into bombs that could be used in fighter jets. they reported that syrian forces started combining chemical that could be used to make that gas for weapons. >>> here at home, big news in the state of washington. it's the first state in the nation to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. voters approved a ballot initiative last month making it legal for adults to possess up to an ounce of marijuana. the new law took effect at midnight and people marked the occasion with a pot party at seattle space needle overnight. it's not a blanket license to smoke pot anywhere anytime. cnn's miguel marquez has been up all night, live in seattle for us. so it's not illegal to smoke marijuana but the whole distribution network of marijuana and the distribution and sale of marijuana is still illegal. there's a big asterisk here for recreational pot users. >> reporter: for no
increasing the fear that bashar al assad's embattled regime may be preparing to use chemical weapons against its opponents. nbc news reports that syria's military loaded the component chemical for the deadly nerve gas cerron into bombs that could be used in fighter jets. they reported that syrian forces started combining chemical that could be used to make that gas for weapons. >>> here at home, big news in the state of washington. it's the first state in the nation to legalize the...